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Saturday, 31 October 2009

90's Dundee v Dunfermline Memories

Granted, no Dundee wins are shown, but there are a couple of super goals from Shaw and Britton.

2009-10 Season Review- October

October started with a cup semi-final against Annan Athletic at Dens. A much changed line up saw the Dark Blues progress 3-0.

"Summergill made some good saves nothing he could do about the goals unfortunately, Annan amazed me for the period up until Dundee scored, they had by far the better of the game, Dundee defence looked definitely rattled when under a bit of pressure, reverting to the old saying "if in doot kick it oot" one ball went clear out of the stadium. Again Cairneys thinking does not match mine, we go 2 down and he substitutes a defender for a defender, granted he later put Storey on, but we had nothing to lose by then, why the fck not Storey for a defender, try to take the match to Dundee. Good luck to Dundee in the final, yesterday would be a good payday for Annan, and Annan supporters were well behind the team, and big J.G. gan tae get yin o they bloody hooters for next weeks game, so that when we get behind it wi the Annan chant, the hooting disny stop." Solwaycoast, Annan-Mad

In the monthly awards, Jocky Scott was awarded the manager of the month while Leigh Griffiths was given the young player of the month award. This complements Harkins's award last month. Partick were the next visitors to Dens Park and Dundee found themselves in an identical position as just before the Ross County game- at home to the league leaders and looking to ensure the visitors don't start putting daylight between us. Dundee scored an early goal and then had to sit back while Partick played some good football. In the second half Harkins got the decisive 2nd goal and Bullock made some incredible saves to keep the score at 2-0.

"We played brilliantly today just lacked something at the end where it counted. And thats where Dundee punished us, Griffiths' goal looked to me [couldn't see very well as it was at the other end but it looked like a simple turn and placed shot past Tuff]
Tony Bullock played the game of his life for you today, really got to hand it to the guy for his age he was big difference even at 2-0 and with you maybe more comfortable he still never slacked off. A really entertaining performance but disappointed we couldn't turn it into goals as we have been able to in the past few games. Not too downhearted though still many games to go although this defeat is a big one." Sampfan101, P&B.

A midweek journey to Ayr followed and there were encouraging signs when Dundee went 2-0 ahead. Top of the league beckoned but, alas, that great Dundee disease of the noughties plagued the Dark Blues yet again. Yes, Dundee let another 2 goal lead slip and the game ended 2-2. Jocky decided to revert to a 4-5-1 once Ayr equalised in an attempt not to lose the match, rather than opting for a late winner.

"Absolutely delighted with what I saw tonight. Lets not kid ourselves, Dundee are a very good team, but we matched them with grit, determination, and some decent stuff too. Leigh Griffiths makes Usain Bolt look sluggish, oh to have someone of his ability in our team. " Ally G, Honestpage

Gary Harkins was ruled out of the Morton game after picking up a knock against Ayr. It was interesting to see how we coped without him and happily we picked up our first away league win of the season. Again, the performance was far from perfect but nevertheless the 3 points came our way.

"Mugged. Simples" hoody, P & B

Dundee's squad depth was being tested by the time Raith visited. Lauchlan was in for Cowan and Harkins was benched. Happily though the Dees won the game 2-1 and results elsewhere meant we moved to top of the league. Griffiths took a knock and there will be a worrying few days before the Rangers cup game to see whether or not he will start that game.

Absolutely gutted we didn't manage at least a point from that. I thought we played pretty well and took the game to Dundee. We failed to clear our lines twice in the first half and were punished for it. Poor goals to lose. Good work from Tadé to set up Darren smith's goal, but I didn't think we had too many clear cut chances in the first. Neither did Dundee in fairness. Dreadfully unlucky in the second half. Bullock had an excellent save near the end, Ferry was unlucky and Dundee got off lightly when their own man put the ball off the post. I thought we should have had a penalty when walker went down, but it's not really easy to tell from the other end." Michael W, P&B.

In the lead up to the Rangers game, Callum Melville announced that Dundee will make an audacious £500,000 bid for Scott Robertson in January. This sparked a war of words between the respective boardrooms on opposite ends of Tannadice Street. Jocky, however, was focused on the cup game and Dundee put in a fantastic effort and despite going 1-0 down, hit back with a tremendous free kick from Griffiths. After the break Dundee took the initiative and had a strong penalty claim denied. A careless own goal seemed to have an extremely negative affect on the players as they spent most of the game deep in their own half. A late seige on the Rangers goal left Dundee exposed at the back and Rangers killed the game. However, despite having players injured, Dundee acquitted themselves extremely well and with two of the next three league games at home there is a real opportunity to cement our position at the top of the league.

Erm, a real opportunity to regain top spot maybe. After being pegged back by Dunfermline at East End park, we gave QOS the opportunity to take top spot- which the duly took. The result may be disappointing in terms of losing a lead once again, but if we can continue our good home form we should be back on top soon.

Some may argue with me however i think Dundee should feel very lucky to get away with a point today as we played well today and played some excellent stuff in certain periods of the game. Tony Bullock saved Dundee numerous times, especially his cracking save from Graham who really should have hit the back of the net." Parscelona, P&B

4th- Dundee 3-0 Annan Athletic, 2,321, League Challenge Cup Semi-final

Higgins, Clarke, Forsyth

Bullock, Paton (Casement 81), Cowan, MacKenzie, Forsyth (Young 77 ), Cameron, McHale, Hart (Harkins 85), Malone, Higgins, Clarke

10th- Dundee 2-0 Partick Thistle, 5,364, (League position- 5th)
Griffiths, Harkins

Bullock, Paton, Malone, Klimpl, MacKenzie, Cowan, Hart (McHale 82), Kerr, Griffiths (McMenamin 75), Higgins (Clarke 75), Harkins.
Subs Not Used: Soutar, Casement.

14th- Ayr United 2-2 Dundee, 1,710, (League Position-3rd)
Forsyth, Griffiths

Bullock, Paton, MacKenzie, Cowan, Malone, Klimpl, Kerr, Forsyth, Harkins, Griffiths, Higgins (McHale)

Subs Not Used: Soutar, McMenamin, Lauchlan, Clarke.

17th- Morton 0-1 Dundee, 2,217, (League position- 2nd)

Bullock, Paton, Malone, Klimpl, MacKenzie, Cowan, Hart (Kerr 83), McHale, Griffiths (Higgins 90), McMenamin (Clarke 75), Forsyth.

Subs Not Used: Cameron, Soutar.

24th- Dundee 2-1 Raith Rovers, 5,156, (League position- 1st)
McMenamin, McKenzie

Bullock, Paton, Malone, Klimpl (Harkins 71), MacKenzie, Lauchlan, McHale, Kerr, Griffiths (Higgins 83), McMenamin, Forsyth.

Subs Not Used: Soutar, Casement, Clarke.

27th- Dundee 1-3 Rangers, 10,654, League Cup Quarter Final

Bullock, Paton, Forsyth, MacKenzie, Lauchlan, Harkins, Malone, McHale, Kerr (Hart), Griffiths (McMenamin), Higgins (Clarke)

Subs Not Used: Soutar, Casement

31st- Dunfermline 1-1 Dundee, 4,001, (League Position- 2nd)

Bullock, Malone, Paton, Forsyth, MacKenzie, Lauchlan, McHale, Kerr, Griffiths, Higgins (McMenamin), Harkins (Hart).

Subs Not Used: Casement, Clarke, Soutar.

October Goal Count:
(L-League; LC-League Cup; LCC-League Challenge Cup)
  1. Griffiths 4 (3-L; 1-LC)
  2. Forsyth 2 (1-L; 1-LCC)
  3. Harkins 2 (2-L)
  4. Higgins 1 (1-LCC)
  5. Clarke 1 (1-LCC)
  6. McMenamin 1 (1-L)
  7. McKenzie 1 (1-L)
Running Total for Season:
  1. Griffiths 12 (5-L; 4-LC; 3-LCC)
  2. Harkins 8 (6-L; 1-LC; 1-LCC)
  3. McMenamin 4 (3-L; 1-LC)
  4. Courier 3 (2-LC; 1-LCC)
  5. Higgins 3 (1 L; 1 LC; 1-LCC)
  6. Forsyth 3 (1-L; 1-LC; 1-LCC)
  7. Cameron 1 (1-LC)
  8. Malone 1 (1-LC)
  9. Clarke 1 (1-LCC)
  10. McKenzie 1 (1-L)
Average Home League Attendance So Far- 5,247
Cumulative League Attendance (6 games)- 31,484

Saturday, 24 October 2009

East End and the Northern League "Championship Question"

East End FC, as we all know by now, was one half of the duo of clubs that merged to form Dundee FC. Playing between the years of 1877 and 1893, they only had local tournaments, friendlies and a few games in the Scottish Cup each year to keep them going. This invariably meant that the local tournaments were taken very seriously and owing to the number of clubs in the "county" back then, local rivalries were fierce.
One such tournament was the Northern League. This tournament was created in 1891 in response to the national Scottish League, formed in 1890, in which no club from Perthshire, Forfarshire or Aberdeen was represented. On the 14th of March 1891 the then Forfarshire FA president, Mr Harry Bryan (of Arbroath FC), chaired a meeting made up of representatives of Our Boys, East End, Dundee Harp and Johnstone Wanderers of Dundee; Fair City Athletic and St. Johnstone of Perth; Arbroath, Forfar Athletic and Montrose of Forfarshire; Aberdeen, Victoria United and Orion of Aberdeen. The latter three clubs would eventually come together in 1903 to form the present Aberdeen FC. The purpose of this meeting was to agree to the proposed 12 team league and a committee made up of representatives of each burgh (Arbroath, Montrose, Forfar, Dundee, Perth and Aberdeen) were tasked with drawing up the new competition's constitution.
The next meeting in Dundee on the 4th April 1891 was for the new constitution to be voted in and was attended by a large number of people. The first point- setting the number of league members to 12 was defeated. The proposal for only 8 clubs was voted in by 16 votes to 7. This, of course, meant that 4 of the clubs had to be removed from the intial line-up. It was decided that Aberdeen and Perth should each only have one team. Aberdeen (17 votes) was chosen to represent the north over Orion (5 votes) and Victoria United (2 votes) while St. Johnstone (13 votes) were chosen over Fair City Athletic (6 votes). It seems Our Boys and East End's positions were never in question as "Dundee's third club" was between Dundee Harp (14 votes) and Johnstone Wanderers (6 votes). Thus the line-up was:
  • Arbroath
  • Forfar
  • Montrose
  • Aberdeen
  • St. Johnstone
  • Our Boys
  • East End
  • Dundee Harp
The office bearers were - President: Mr Doig (St. Johnstone); Vice President: Mr Stewart (Aberdeen); Treasurer: Mr Smith (Montrose) & Secretary: Mr A. Williamson (Our Boys).

The first league campaign kicked-off in season 1891-92. This season saw strong teams in the form of East End, Our Boys and Montrose, but in particular East End were impressive this year, almost sweeping the board of local tournaments. In the Forfarshire Cup East End lost to Montrose in the final in a hard fought game. East End, as they often did, lodged a protest at Montrose's late arrival, but this was thrown out. In the Dundee Charity Cup another hard fought final brought joy this time in the form of a 3-2 win over Our Boys. This just left the Northern League. So it must have been gratifying for East End to edge out main challengers Montrose 2-1 at Carolina Port in a vital league game. However, it would seem East End played an ineligible player in that game and the match was ordered to be replayed. East End were furious and even got their solicitor involved- a Mr D. M. Anderson- who wrote that his clients refused to replay their game as the league "wrongously disqualified" them. Furthermore, he was ready to instigate legal proceedings to have the trophy delivered to East End but has decided to first submit the point to the committee for arbitration. So what was the committee's decision on this serious matter?

"It was all but unanimously decided to take no notice of the letter"

So that was that then. East End were docked 2 points (the points they won in that Montrose game) and therefore ended the season on the same points as Our Boys who finished the season strongly and, in doing so, overtook Montrose who finished poorly. By failing to replay the game East End had to share the title with Our Boys. Nothing obviously came of their solicitor's proceedings.

That historic first table:
  • East End 19pts
  • Our Boys 19pts
  • Montrose 14pts
  • Dundee Harp 13pts
  • Arbroath 12pts
  • Aberdeen 12pts
  • Forfar 10pts
  • St. Johnstone 9pts

Friday, 16 October 2009

Dundee v Cologne, 1962

This match programme is the most coveted of all Dundee's European Cup programmes. This maybe due to the incredible scoreline of 8-1 in Dundee's favour- perhaps it's only with a little bias that I claim this as one of European Football's most amazing results- or perhaps it is simply a rarer programme. The Evening Telegraph may not have printed off as many copies as they did in the later rounds, or it could be as a result of the game drawing Dundee's lowest crowd of that campaign- a mere, piffling 24,500. Less punters would equal less sales. Whatever the reason, and all things being equal, expect to pay more for this programme than any of the others.

The second page is a message from the chairman- Mr J. R. Gellaty. The Chairman recollects the events at Muirton:

"My special recollection of the occasion is the congratulations showered upon us by St. Johnstone Football Club notwithstanding their own disappointment when all the results came in and it was realised that they were doomed to relegation."

If only their fans were quite so accommodating...!
Over the page we have the obligatory pen pics and team photos.

"The Mighty Men from Cologne" brought with them a very talented team. 'Keeper Fritz Ewert had played for Germany and was also a petrol pump attendant at the time of the game. Fritz Pott was expected to be capped against Yugoslavia later that month and also scored for Cologne in the German championship decider. Karl-Heinz Schnellinger played in that summer's World Cup and was voted in the World Best XI. Another international- Leo Wilden- has a "clear-at-all-costs" policy that "does not endear him to everyone". Another petrol pump attendant and another international was brought in the form of Hans Sturm. Karl-Heinze Thielen was a prolific goal scorer with 25 in 30 games the previous season and a Germany B international. Hans Schafer was a World Cup winner in 1954 and was also a petrol pump attendant. Gerd Hornig was the other B international and Hans Stollenwerk played in the 1958 World Cup in Sweden. So despite this being Cologne's first ever European Cup, it is clear to see why they were joint favourites.
One team member that did not come, however, was "Little John":

"Cologne have had to travel without their team mascot, "Hennes". He's a billy-goat, born in 1948. And he's looked upon as such a good omen that he has been incorporated in the badge which appears on the team's jerseys. Translated, "Hennes" means "Little John". And "Little John" is an ever present at home matches."

Finally there's a piece about Gordon Smith:
"Scotland's Stanley Matthews...the greatest soccer pin-up north of the border since the war. That's GORDON SMITH. Dundee's 38-years-young right winger. Dundee's championship success had a special significance for him. He brought off the unique record of winning first division medals with three clubs- Hibs, Hearts, Dundee. It's over 21 years since he left Dundee North End to start his great career with Hibs for a £10 signing-on fee."

Winning the title with 3 clubs is one thing- but 3 non Old Firm clubs? A feat never to be repeated in my humble opinion.

Sunday, 11 October 2009

European Cup 1st Round 1962-63

Season 1962-63 is significant for Dundee fans as being the only time our club has competed in Europe's premier club competition. It was to be a baptism of fire as Dundee were drawn against joint favourites for the trophy- Cologne. Cologne earned the right to be part of the draw by winning the 1961-62 German Championship. At that time the German Championship was a round robin event followed up with a final tie to decide the champions- a sort of mini Champions League. Cologne, or FC Köln, won their group by virtue of an excellent 3-1 away win to the fantastic Eintracht and a 1-0 home win over Hamburger SV. They finished off the group matches with an emphatic 10-0 win over FK Pirmasens. This set up a final tie with FC Nürnberg which FC Köln won easily, 4-0. FC Köln would prove to be more than just a mere cup team in 1963-64 when they won the initial Bundesliga.
Other big names to enter the draw included Anderlecht, Real Madrid, Feyenoord, Sporting Lisbon with Stade de Reims and Benfica earning byes. Ipswich Town were England's representatives that season-like Dundee, their only national championship success fell in the 61-62 season. Scottish Clubs had already made their mark on this tournament with Hibs in 1955-56 and Rangers in 1959-60 reaching the semi-finals.
The first round matches were staggered with Dundee's tie being included in the first set of matches played on 5th September 1962. Some shock waves were, no doubt, being sent around Europe at the news that Anderlecht had come from 2-0 and 3-2 down to notch a fantastic 3-3 draw at the Bernabeu. Even bigger shock waves were undoubtedly being sent by the news that joint favourites, FC Köln, were slaughtered 8-1 in Scotland. The rest of the ties went pretty much according to script. The 2nd leg matches sprung up few shocks but Anderlecht, however, followed up their draw in Madrid with an 85th minute goal in a 1-0 win in Brussels to become only the second side, after Barcelona to defeat that great Real Madrid side over 2 legs in Europe.

Those 1st round results in full:
AC Milan 8-0 US Luxembourg
US Luxembourg 0-6 AC Milan (14-0 Milan)

Floriana 1-4 Ipswich Town
Ipswich 10-0 Floriana (14-1 Ipswich)

Dinamo Bucharest 1-1 Galatasaray
Galatasaray 3-0 Dinamo Bucharest (4-1 Galatasaray)

Polonia Bytom 2-1 Panathinaikos
Panathinaikos 1-4 Polonia Bytom (6-2 Polonia)

CDNA (Sofia) 2-1 FK Partizan (Belgrade)
FK Partizan (Belgrade) 1-4 CDNA (Sofia)(6-2 CDNA)

Real Madrid 3-3 RSC Anderlecht
Anderlecht 1-0 Real Madrid (4-3 Anderlecht)

Shelbourne 0-2 Sporting CP
Sporting CP 5-1 Shelbourne (7-1 Sporting Lisbon)

Dundee 8-1 FC Cologne
FC Cologne 4-0 Dundee (8-5 Dundee)

Servette FC 1-3 Feyenoord
Feyenoord 1-3 Servette FC (4-4 Feyenoord win replay 3-1)

Fredrikstad FK 1-4 Vasas
Vasas 7-0 Fredrikstad (11-1 Vasas)

FK Austria 5-3 HIFK (Helsinki)
HIFK 0-2 FK Austria (7-3 FK Austria)

ASK Vorwarts 0-3 Dukla Prague
Dukla Prague 1-0 ASK Vorwarts (4-0 Dukla)

Linfield 1-2 Esbjerg FB
Esbjerg 0-0 Linfield (2-1 Esbjerg)

IFK Norrkoping 2-0 FK Partizani
FK Partizani 1-1 IFK Norrkoping (3-1 IFK Norrkoping)

The second round draw included the following teams:
  1. AC Milan
  2. Ipswich
  3. Galatasaray
  4. Polonia Bytom
  5. CDNA Sofia
  6. Anderlecht
  7. Sporting Lisbon
  8. Dundee
  9. Feyenoord
  10. Vasas Budapest
  11. FK Austria
  12. Dukla Prague
  13. Esbjerg
  14. IFK Norrkoping
  15. Benfica
  16. Stade De Reims

Tuesday, 6 October 2009

Thought for the Day

Lately I've been busy which has resulted in less posts than I'd have liked, however, there is more to come so please keep checking back.

Today's post is something for us all to think about I'm sure! It is a quote from Rev Harcourt M Davidson back in 1890:

"Football and Church Attendance- The Rev.Harcourt M. Davidson, of St. Andrews Parish Church, Dundee, presiding at the festival of the Wanderers' Football Club last night, said he would not have been the chairman of that or any other meeting were he not entirely of opinion that football was a right, and proper, and manly, and, he would say, a Christian-like occupation for any young man of health. There was no reason why football players should not be present at the Sunday morning church service. It was not the Saturday afternoon that kept the players from church, but what followed. Although they had a black eye there was no reason why they should not be present at church. There had been many an honourable got black eye. If he saw a young man in his church with a black eye, he would just assume that he had been playing football. Football matches, like presbytery meetings, got a great deal of notice in the press. The secular press was down on Presbyteries, and the religious press was down on football, the reason being that neither know very much of what they were talking about."

On that note, it brings to mind another quote of which I know not the origins:

"Sunday is a day for reflection, praise and worship...

...but only if your team deserves it."